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A spokesman for Carmen Welker has posted the following list of comments in reaction to our assertion that their implausible claim that Paul the Apostle did not speak Greek well and that since there is no manuscript evidence for Aramaic originals, their contentions are blatantly absurd.

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Carmen Welker, who calls herself "Rabbi Shali Bat Yehudit", the front woman for a group calling itself "Refining Fire" which denies one God in three Persons (the Person-hood of the Holy Spirit) and promotes mandatory Orthodox Jewish Religious observance for Christians, has again demonstrated the outlandish ignorance to which she subscribes with claims that are beyond buffoonery.

Welker takes exception to the term "Trinity", challenging that it should be found in Scripture. In actual fact, Moriel never used the term "Trinity" but rather "one God in three Persons", which can certainly be found in Scripture. It has remained the overwhelmingly predominant belief of Christians since the time of Jesus and the Apostles, including all non-Ebionite Jewish believers in Yeshua.

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Monday, July 10, 2006 12:31:28 PM by Kimmers

There is a lot of worry popping up in the media just now -- "Can Israel Survive?" Don't worry about it. It relates to something that Palestinians, the Arabs, and perhaps most Americans don't realize -- the Jews are never going quietly again. Never. And if the world doesn't come to understand that, then millions of Arabs are going to die. It's as simple as that.

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Saturday, 28 March 2009 06:01

Refining Fire?

A Heretical Group Based on the Spriit of Error, Ignorance, Charlatanism & a Most Absurd Stupidity

By Jacob Prasch

Moriel has warned of various hyper-Messianic type groups with heretical Christologies (including Neo- Ebionism) and legalism placing even non-Jews under a Mosaic law that is fulfilled in Christ and no longer even biblically operative since 70AD. This is not, of course, to negate the freedom in Christ for believing Jews to maintain cultural observances electively nor does it negate the importance of all believers comprehending the Hebraic origins of biblical Christianity and of both Testaments, nor of being aware of the prophetic purposes of God for Israel and the Jews and of the serious error of replacement theology.

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Moriel Ministries regularly receives these kinds of requests:


There is a Netzari/Messianic website that grabbed my attention for more than a month or so. They are believers in Yeshua ha Mashiach of course, but they place extreme emphasis on Torah obedience.

My family and I, whom are former Catholics would like to join the Messianic Movement, but we need some discerning teachers to help caution us from believing just any website that claims to be authentic. While this website has based its teachings directly from the Scriptures, I need to be sure whether they're serving Yahweh's divine interests. The website is www.therefinersfire.org. Please gaze upon just some of the articles on this Netzari website and please let us know if you would endorse it.

Shalom U'vrachot.

Greetings in Jesus.

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by  Dr. Manfred Gerstenfeld | Tamas Berzi
Published March 2009
No. 79, 1 April 2009 / 7 Nissan 5769

Manfred Gerstenfeld and Tamas Berzi

:"(The authors thank Rachel Bresinger for her assistance with the research for this article. )":

  • Anti-Semitic and anti-Israeli manifestations reached post-Second World War highs during Israel's recent Gaza campaign. Attacks came from many directions. They included strong condemnations of Israeli actions by several governments as well as partly violent demonstrations in a number of countries. Furthermore, there were physical attacks on Jewish individuals as well as institutions. There was also much hate speech.
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Saturday, 14 March 2009 06:40

Radio Interview with Jacob Prasch

Bill Salhus of Prophecy Update Radio recently conducted an interview with Dr. David Hocking and Jacob Prasch regarding "Israel's Present Travails". Click here to directly access the interview.

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(Please correct us if we are mistaken)

Moriel and Jacob Prasch indeed urge serious prayer, fasting, and intercession for Israel & The Jews at this perilous time as the return of Christ draws closer and the advent of the Antichrist draws closer still. What we oppose, however, are immorality, heresy, and lunacy and the Last Days deception these things too often engender. Such madness serves the interest of neither Israel or the church.

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Sunday, 01 March 2009 04:54

Ismail Patel, Stephen Sizer And Fans

February 24, 2009
Seismic Shock


Over at Harry's Place, Habibi shows how the extremist Jew-hating Ismail Patel is speaking alongside Stephen Sizer. It's worth reading the whole post in order to understand how truly sickening Ismail Patel's worldview is - Patel cites Holocaust deniers, hosts articles by Ben White, defends Yusuf al-Qaradawi, considers Disney to be a Jewish plot and supports Hamas, Iran and Syria.

Look who's speaking alongside him on Saturday:

It's time for British Christians to stop viewing Stephen Sizer as a world expert on the Middle East or its theology. It's time for congregants of Christ Church Virgina Water, and British Christian leaders such as Rico Tice, Terry Virgo, Phil Groom, Dick Lucas, John Stott, Peter Walker and Stephen Travis to wake up realise that Rev Sizer is a dangerous individuals who allies with dangerous extremists, convicted terrorists, Jew-haters of every colour and creed, Iranian mullahs, Holocaust deniers, neo-fascists and militant Islamists in his quest to demonise and delegitimise the Jewish state.

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Friday, 13 February 2009 23:30

South African Ports To Reject Israeli Ships

02-04-09, 16:48
Israel News

The Congress of South African Trade Unions has vowed to close ports to cargo ships from "apartheid Israel," the South African Daily News reported on Wednesday.

The Congress has already announced it would refuse to offload a vessel scheduled to dock in Durban on Sunday.

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